21 December 2011 @ 07:33 am
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Here's a comprehensive post of the workarounds for LJ's new comment pages. Feel free to share this, comment on what you've found that can help, etc etc. I'll keep this post open and I'll also update it when new things are brought out!

As of December 21st, there is a temporary work around around the comment page style. The person is still developing it, but has released what they have done so far to the general public. If you'd like to offer assistance, I know that the person would really appreciate it. I also know that through plurk, someone is going to offer to work on redesigning the comment pages to be like the old one.

As far as the preview button is concerned, I haven't discovered any sort of fix for that around LJ, however I do offer this to preview your HTML as well as a spellchecker if your browser of choice does not supply you with one.

If you have anything else to offer, go right ahead and leave me a comment! This will also be featured on my plurk for those who wish to contact me through there.

After I typed this entry, I have noticed that the old browse box is still available. You can see that here with my own icons as part of the box itself. I don't know if LJ's going to do away with this, but it's still there!

Edit #1 If you add "?format=light" to the end of the URL (for example, http://advancing.livejournal.com/133124.html?format=light), it removes the bottom scroll bar as seen here to make things look cleaner and neater. I've also discovered that adding "?view=flat" at the end of the URL also works. This can also be useful in LJ communities, as seen here. It doesn't offer hierarchical view, however it does work.

Edit #2 I've found that [info]street_of_mercy's layouts has the old options back, same as the hover menus. You can see how their Colorful Grey layout does this here, for an example. As [info]turncloak has suggested, [info]mintyapple also offers a few layouts right here. They have a tag for these sorts of layouts here!

I have been informed that Minimalism layouts still have the old comment pages, too. You can find all of them here. A friend of mine has also told me that they "managed to make a workable journal layout with this. I set my journal style to minimalism (in my case, aquatic moon) with custom comments on, used the CSS provided here, and set the dropdowns on the custom CSS page to Yes to stylesheets and No to theme stylesheets. I know it's not very pretty looking, but it's functional and it's a relatively quick fix to do."

Edit #3 If you'd like to see how the Russian users are handling this change, you can check out the community [info]ruljautonews. The translations are by no means perfect, however just like we are frustrated and pitching fits about this change, they have expressed similar complaints about it.

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I would like to apologize for how long it's taken me to get around to editing this entry, however I've been looking around for a few scripts that can help out with LJ as a whole.

First off is Adblock Plus for both Chrome and Firefox. I personally use this one and you can help customize it against YouTube embeds, Facebook addons and more. What this is going to do is whenever you load a page on LiveJournal, it won't benefit from the ad revenue the site will gain, therefore cutting more profit away from LJ as a whole.

If you're familiar with writing code on the fly, then Greasemonkey is for you. But, if you don't have knowledge in writing scripts, then don't worry - you can go to userscripts.org and it'll automatically install the scripts right there for you. I also use a script called LJ Bannering that disables the monthly banner and replaces it with the dark blue one. As you can see here, it works!

To go through multiple LJ accounts at once, you'll want to install LJLogin, a client I wholeheartedly use. It also doesn't exclusively work for LJ, either! It can work for sites such as InsaneJournal, Dreamwidth, Scribbld, etc. This way, you don't have to constantly login and logout via the site when you want to use a different account.

Hand-in-hand with RPers and people who make long posts, Lazarus is, to be frank, a god send. If you somehow manage to close out of your browser or a specific tab, Lazarus will save the text/form and it'll automatically be up the next time you wish to comment.

As [info]historychick49 has pointed out, the LiveJournal extension for Chrome as well as LiveJournal hook will allow you to view pages in your own style if you don't have a paid or a permanent account! It'll be plenty useful for how things are right now as far as LJ is concerned.

I'm still looking for other add-ons, but if anyone has anything to offer that wasn't described here or in this entry, then please let me know and I'll append it to the entry!
 
 
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Theon Greyjoy[info]turncloak on December 21st, 2011 12:54 pm (UTC)
I'm using Minimalism with a nice layout from [info]mintyapple and I have subject lines, the dropdown icon menu and browse button, the preview checkbox, and the (Parent) (Thread) links, so for now it's definitely all still there, LJ just built something gross over the top of it.
the deceiver of fools: UTENA ღ happy you're safe.[info]advancing on December 21st, 2011 12:58 pm (UTC)
What's the link for the layout, if you don't mind my asking?
Theon Greyjoy[info]turncloak on December 21st, 2011 01:16 pm (UTC)
I'm using too corporate on this journal and hold your colour on another with excellent results.

the layout comm mintyapple also has a tag for minimalism layouts with more selection.
the deceiver of fools: EIRIN ღ sound of spirits.[info]advancing on December 21st, 2011 01:19 pm (UTC)
I shall add that in the entry! Thank you for your help. :D
Demon Faith: glee[info]demon_faith on December 21st, 2011 02:19 pm (UTC)
Thank you for this post.

All the Minimalism layouts still have individual comment links and the ability to create subjects. The custom comment pages aren't ideal, but they are workable.
the deceiver of fools: PANTY ღ fly away now.[info]advancing on December 21st, 2011 02:27 pm (UTC)
You're welcome!

I'll go ahead and add that the Minimalism layouts are still functional with the old style, so thank you for letting me know!
esteven[info]esteven on December 21st, 2011 03:58 pm (UTC)
I have come via a long line of links all to do with LJ's new style comments page, so please forgive me for butting in.

I do have a minimalism layout, but cannot change the it to include subject lines and drop down menues. Looks like that can only be done with plus or paid accounts, while mine is still a basic.

Would you have a suggestion?

Thank you.
the deceiver of fools: EIRIN  ღ  but that won't do.[info]advancing on December 21st, 2011 04:05 pm (UTC)
I totally don't mind people butting in.

As far as your question is concerned, I'm not entirely sure what to do. I know it works for plus and paid accounts, however... Did you try to copy the custom CSS in the link provided for it to work?
esteven[info]esteven on December 21st, 2011 04:21 pm (UTC)
Thank you for replying. As I said, I have heard that these things work with plus or paid accounts.

I have not so far tried CSS, because I am a total looby and ejit when it comes to these things as I am afraid my journal will then crash around my ears.
*sighs*
the deceiver of fools: BEATRICE ღ the golden witch.[info]advancing on December 21st, 2011 08:34 pm (UTC)
/nodnod

It probably won't, but the box that is seen here is where you would input the CSS that [info]stoppedhiding built. If you need any further assistance, though, I can refer this thread to my friend if you'd like. :D
esteven[info]esteven on December 21st, 2011 10:38 pm (UTC)
Would you do that? I am so very afraid of touching anything about which I have no clue. I would need a subject header for dummies, and I mean, DUMMIES!
the deceiver of fools: PANTY ღ fly away now.[info]advancing on December 22nd, 2011 12:54 am (UTC)
Sure! :D My friend has commented to assist you with this. I know that switching from a basic account to a plus account isn't ideal, but hopefully you'll have the option of reverting that change when LJ gets its' act together.
Golbez (Theodor Harvey)[info]stoppedhiding on December 21st, 2011 08:39 pm (UTC)
Custom comment pages aren't available for basic accounts, only plus and paid. So if you have a basic account, there's nothing you can do.

The only thing I can suggest is to upgrade to plus and install an adblocker.
the exposition queen[info]regann on December 21st, 2011 05:15 pm (UTC)
I have the "Travel Afar" Minimalism style, with custom comment pages turned on under "customize your theme" and then "View all journals and communities in my own style" checked on under Account > Display > Other Journals. This has taken me back to the old commenting system (parent/thread, drop-down, preview) with little fuss. Not pretty but very functional.

Some of these options were a little hard for me to find so I wanted to share!
the deceiver of fools: REISEN ღ terms must be made.[info]advancing on December 21st, 2011 08:30 pm (UTC)
Thank you for letting me know! :D
Aerin / Jessica[info]historychick49 on December 21st, 2011 08:54 pm (UTC)
Ahh, thank you for this!

A note: if you don't have a paid/permanent account, you can't check "View all journals and communities in my own style". However, LJ Hook for Firefox and Livejournal Extension for Chrome allow you that option.
the deceiver of fools: BAKURA ღ tip the scales of fate.[info]advancing on December 21st, 2011 09:14 pm (UTC)
Do you mind providing the links for those extensions?
Aerin / Jessica[info]historychick49 on December 21st, 2011 10:38 pm (UTC)
Sure!

Livejournal Extension for Chrome

LJ Hook for Firefox (incidentally, googling "LJ Hook" prompts Google to ask you if you meant "LJ Hooker". Hee.)

I haven't used LJ Hook personally, so can't give instructions on that, but I can provide instructions for Livejournal Extension.
the deceiver of fools: ANKO ღ move that body.[info]advancing on December 22nd, 2011 12:54 am (UTC)
Thank you so much - this is really useful!
Aerin / Jessica[info]historychick49 on December 22nd, 2011 12:56 am (UTC)
You're welcome!
Κόρη[info]kore_on_lj on December 22nd, 2011 08:51 am (UTC)
DAMN, LJ Hook doesn't appear to work with FF 4.0 (not without editing code I'm too stupid to do). Argh.
Havoc[info]havocthecat on December 21st, 2011 06:38 pm (UTC)
Thank you! I'm terrible with layouts and CSS, but several of these have laid out all the little steps that are needed, which I need to do anything with layouts.
the deceiver of fools: RIKKU ღ gotta love you anyway.[info]advancing on December 21st, 2011 08:35 pm (UTC)
I totally feel you there, especially with how confusing CSS itself can be. However, you're welcome!
MacBeth: Computer Fix[info]lolmac on December 21st, 2011 08:27 pm (UTC)
Aha, so that was it! I use Minimalist layouts for everything, and as long as I'm either on my own turf or keep the 'View in own style' box checked, I have full features.

I hope you don't mind if I signal-boost this post!
the deceiver of fools[info]advancing on December 21st, 2011 08:36 pm (UTC)
Awesome! :D

And go right ahead - that's why this entry has been left public.
↘ poslogical: yuna ♪ silver and cold[info]explodinggbgirl on December 21st, 2011 09:06 pm (UTC)
the deceiver of fools: CATERINA ღ a despicable woman.[info]advancing on December 21st, 2011 09:14 pm (UTC)
And that is why we need subject lines/tags to be BEFORE you click on LJ-cuts. Unfortunately, it seems that LJ doesn't care and would rather listen to their snide developers all the more.
le preux chevalier: eva - zomg shinji squee![info]chrissy_sky on December 21st, 2011 09:20 pm (UTC)
Weee subject line.
I'm using Quite Lickable, since it make my own layouts and it's easy to manipulate. Put "No" on the disabling custom comment pages and viola, it's the old style (for the moment anyway). Thanks for this! I may link to it as well. <3
the deceiver of fools: RIDDLER ღ all pawns in my scheme.[info]advancing on December 21st, 2011 09:23 pm (UTC)
Subject lines are awesome.
Thanks for the update! :D And please - do feel free to link it!
Breyzy and Yin Girl: Breyzy: ...you think you can beat me?[info]breyzyyin on December 21st, 2011 10:30 pm (UTC)
Thank you for all of this information! ♥
the deceiver of fools[info]advancing on December 22nd, 2011 12:54 am (UTC)
Don't mention it! I'm glad I can offer help when it's needed.
Gregory Pettigrew: hopeless causes[info]etherial on December 21st, 2011 11:30 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for collating this.
I have resisted s2 for years since I can't find a style that replicates the features I want in my friends page. Hopefully someone can help me find a s2 style that matches it or that lj will cave and let me continue using s1.
the deceiver of fools[info]advancing on December 22nd, 2011 12:56 am (UTC)
You're very welcome!
Ahh - I can see if there is a change that will replicate what you have and if there is, I'll be sure to let you know. :D
Gregory Pettigrew: southpark[info]etherial on December 22nd, 2011 12:58 am (UTC)
Re: You're very welcome!
Thanks. 3000 comments since I first replied on [info]lj_releases and yours is the first good news I've seen.
klia[info]klia on December 22nd, 2011 08:04 pm (UTC)
Same here -- I'm still using a very bare bones S1 with a free account, and haven't wanted to switch, but with this comment redesign, I can't even expand collapsed comments to read them anymore (when I click on "expand," I see a spinny thing that says "loading," then nothing happens).
Κόρη[info]kore_on_lj on December 22nd, 2011 08:22 am (UTC)
here via a friend's link
Thank you SO MUCH for this, it's really helpful.
I HAPPENED.[info]fierceawakening on December 22nd, 2011 12:43 pm (UTC)
I'm using Bats Purple with some small modifications I made to it. I have subject lines, though I don't know if it would without modifications. (I think so, as I never altered that bit.)
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